Showing posts with label Full Five. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Full Five. Show all posts

Sunday, March 3, 2013

Outer Center Square Full Five, with bonus room!

I saw an interesting house at 1942 18th Ave today:
http://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Francisco/1942-18th-Ave-94116/home/1500688

The reason I decided to see it for myself is it has almost exactly the same floor plan as my house and was built in the same year, 1931. It is an Outer Center Square Full Five. Very nice exterior:


The exterior as a whole is somewhat atypical for a Sunset house, but the individual components are more typical. In the front, there are three windows forming a Marina style semi-hexagonal facade (inside is the living room). The three bay windows forming a semi-hexagon was typical of houses built in San Francisco in the 1920's. In San Francisco, around 1930, Spanish style architecture became widespread in mass residential architecture, and so the "Spanish" component in this case are the few decorative red tiles on the top.

Very nice dining room with barrel ceiling, and also a "Spanish" style fireplace typical of San Francisco homes built in 1930 to 1931. Towards 1932, the builders got smart and realized the fireplace was awkwardly placed (making it hard to figure out where to place the sofa and tv/radio), and started placing the fireplace in the corner rather than on the side. In this configuration, the sofa and tv are squeezed to the right of the fireplace.


In my house, the sofa is next to, but faces 180 degrees away from the windows on the front, and the tv sits angled to the right of the fireplace.

The dining room is right behind the living room, with the side patio behind it. The difference between this home and a center patio are as follows: In a center patio home, the patio is bigger and in the center of the home, not on the side like this. A hallway and sometimes a bathroom sits on one side of the center patio, and the kitchen and breakfast room on the other side. In the side patio configuration, the dining room faces the side patio, while the breakfast room faces the front of the house instead of being on the side. If this sounds confusing, see http://saxerealestate.com/map/architecture.htm for more details.

Here's the dining room with rounded ceiling with the side patio behind it (similar to my house):


And here's the breakfast room (looks like it's been modernized) facing the front:


The bathroom is beautiful, with original green tiles and floor tiling:


One interesting thing is from the twenties and earlier, a lot of bathrooms had the bath and sink in one room, and the toilet was in a separate water closet room next door. This home still retains this older layout, the bathroom has no toilet. The water closet actually is across from the bathroom, with a window facing the side patio.

Here's the master bedroom. Because the land the house is on is sloped, even though we're on the second story, the two bedrooms evenly face the backyard, which is nice. A really nice patio was built behind the two main bedrooms in the back leading into the backyard.


Going downstairs, there's a third room. Originally, most San Francisco homes built until the 1950's had all the livable rooms on the second floor, with an open ground floor, which was considered the basement. In fact, before the 1930's, most of these basements weren't even paved when built (though some more expensive houses starting in the 1930's started including an original social room with wet bar and fireplace downstairs). As a result, most homeowners in San Francisco who owned these homes eventually built finished living space downstairs. Because most of these homeowners did the work without a city building permit (which requires multiple building inspections, architectural plans, and conformance with the city building code which includes things like minimal height and windows and ventilation), on real estate sites these rooms are usually referred to as a "bonus room" or "unwarranted room". This means there is a finished room downstairs, but because it might have been illegally built (and frequently built without legal height, or enough windows to the outside), it cannot be counted in the official square footage or bedroom count of the home. Some homeowners may have built what is called an in-law unit downstairs, which may contain a separate bathroom and kitchen, and a separate entrance into the unit. "In-law unit" is a euphamism for illegally built unit, which means when it is rented out, it is illegally rented out. However, it is estimated that about 50,000 people in San Francisco live in such units (almost 10% of the population) so clearly this is a problem that needs to be sorted out.

I've seen houses where they've legally renovated the downstairs where the upstairs seamlessly connects to the finished spaces downstairs to where it looks very natural. I've heard that this is very expensive, but in my opinion, worth it if you want to live in a cozy home that maximizes the living space potential. Here's an example of a very nice legal downstairs renovation: http://www.dwell.com/house-tours/slideshow/sunset-district-renovation

In the case of the house that I saw today, there is still enough room in the garage to park two cars (tandem, like almost all Sunset style houses), with the unwarranted room in the back. It has a window facing the back (though not much of a view since the two rooms upstairs are above and over it; the window faces concrete. Nevertheless, it appears to be a relatively nicely built room that can be a guest room.

Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Nice Full Five Center Patio Home

Here's a nice Sunset home currently on sale in a more desirable location:
http://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Francisco/65-Stanyan-St-94118/home/1199543

It's a classic well kept Full Five Center Patio home. I find it slightly off-putting the floors are so highly "laminated" but otherwise beautiful.

Great exterior:


Beautiful classic mid to late 30's living room (you can tell from the fireplace). The diamond hardwood floor is really nice:


Several rooms including the kitchen, dining room, and breakfast room get more internal sunlight thanks to the open center patio in the middle of the second floor.

Dining room (center patio is to the right):


The center patio:


Nice classic bathroom with what looks like pretty old tiles and original shower stall:


Finally, the floor plan, which should give you a nice overhead view of what a Full Five Center Patio home is all about (on the second floor; looks like there are newer additions on the garage level):

Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Rousseau home

I saw a really nice Rousseau home last weekend.  Oliver Rousseau is known in San Francisco for building basically much nicer versions of your typical Sunset style house.  So these houses would more or less be similar size and on same lot size as your typical Sunset home, but with a lot detailed exterior and interior features, possibly a custom floor plan, and fancy features like a finished "social room" on the ground floor (most houses of this period had an open basement ground floor). 

See http://www.sfgate.com/homeandgarden/article/Brightening-the-Sunset-Oliver-Rousseau-a-2703046.php for more info.  There are houses designed by Rousseau and then other homes that are listed as "Rousseau style", as in the sellers consider the home to have some more interesting detailing than the typical mass produced house of the period. 

Here's the listing of the house that I saw - really marvelous:
http://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Francisco/1587-34th-Ave-94122/home/1839970

Very nice living room with painted patterns on the wood beams on the ceiling (the wood beams themselves would be a nice extra feature for a home built in the 30s in San Francisco).  The corner fireplace you see here looks similar to a lot of other houses' photos I've seen built from 1932 to the late 1930's and helps date this house to that period (and in fact this house was built in 1932). 
 







Nice dining room as well, really interesting inlaid oval that I haven't seen before in the houses I've seen in San Francisco, again, seems pretty custom.

Some photos that I took:
 
Looking at the house (blue one on the left):




 

 

It was typically for the 1930's to use outrageously brightly colored bathroom tiling, like bright green or purple.  Still, this tiling seems much more elaborate than in your typical Sunset home.  That makes this house extra special because most Sunset style homes' bathrooms have been remodeled since when they were built with the tiling removed.
 
Many nice Sunset homes came with a center patio which added sunlight to rooms in the house and provided a nice outdoor sanctuary.  In many houses ( like mine), they have become indoor patios with the addition of a skylight to cover the roof.  In this house, there are evidently very nice custom touches with the floor tiles, the big size of the patio, the red roof tiles, and the very pleasing oval shape of the patio itself.
 
This shows the downstairs social room.  This was the first time I've seen an original social room in a Sunset style home.  Again, a really nice bonus feature (and adds to the offical square footage).  On the right is a large room where you might use as a family room.  It comes with a cute fireplace.  To the left is the bar where you can store your drinks.  The room to the right leads out into the backyard.  Truly a nice place for social gatherings! 
 
All in all, a very very nice house.  Wish I could afford it! 

Monday, November 5, 2012

Sunset Style Homes

Hi there, this is my first blog post!  A few months ago, I started the challenging journey to buy a house in San Francisco.  As I went through the process, I became interested in a specific type of home in San Francisco.  I'm not sure if there's an official term for it, but basically, I find the historical nature of Sunset style row houses quite interesting.  As denoted by the name, these houses, built generally in the 1920's to 1940's (though there are houses in the Sunset built earlier in a Craftsman or Victorian style, and later in mid-century or later style) are dotted throughout the Sunset, and indeed in many parts of San Francisco.  In fact, while I wanted to stay in the Inner Sunset where I was living, ultimately I landed up in my very own Sunset style home, not in the Sunset, but in the Outer Mission! 

During my purchase process, I learned many new terms and facts about these terms, terms like "Full Five", "Center Patio", "Tunnel Entrance", "Doelger style", "Rousseau Style", etc. Even after my home purchase, I've continued to occasionally go to open houses just to check out some of these fine homes.  Since I am still spending some of my free time looking at homes, I figured I might as well share what I've learned with folks out there looking to buy their own Sunset style home, or just folks interested in these houses in general! 

First tidbit- what does Full Five mean?  http://saxerealestate.com/map/architecture.htm explains everything, with floor plans.  Basically, a Junior Five is a smaller home, a tunnel entrance home comes with, well, a tunnel entrance sometimes with plants on either side of the tunnel path (as opposed to a non-covered set of stairs going up to the main entrance upstairs), a Full Five is a big house with some extras (like a breakfast nook).  A home with a center patio has a cute patio smack in the middle of the home (originally was built un-covered, but a lot of homeowners have covered them with skylights). 

My house in the Outer Mission is (according to the site above) a Outer Center Square Full Five.  What's interesting is there is a patio, but it's called a side patio instead of a center patio since one wall of the patio is on the side of the house. 

Here's an interesting look from my house's roof at a few other houses across the street from mine that are also Outer Center Square Full Five's, all built in 1931: